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What are they thinking of doing to the Poison Spider thing near Moab?

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Cheers, Bev
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-- Julie Brown

Michael Sturdevant

2021-04-22 02:03:33 UTC

Post by The Real Bev
NO WAY!
What are they thinking of doing to the Poison Spider thing near Moab?

Already sent my comments to the planning process. If you want, I'll find it again so
you can comment too.

Go fast. Take chances.
Mike S.

The Real Bev

2021-04-22 05:51:01 UTC

Post by Michael Sturdevant

Post by The Real Bev
NO WAY!
What are they thinking of doing to the Poison Spider thing near Moab?

Already sent my comments to the planning process. If you want, I'll find it again so
you can comment too.

I commented too. I never did find out what They are planning to do, but
I figure it wasn't good so I made my comment fairly general. I figure
they're just counting noses.

Long ago the FS went through a similar process involving Kennedy
Meadows. Huge numbers of FS man-hours, person-hours, meetings, travel,
etc. and then finally our Senator stepped in and redrew the map. Since
the other Senator didn't object, Congress approved the new design --
which deleted a number of trails and created wilderness where there had
previously been MC trails. That's when I really lost faith in government.

Kid seems to be kicking ass...

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Cheers, Bev
Don't you just KNOW that there is more than one
Sierra Club member who is absolutely sure that the
dinosaurs died out because of something humans did?

Volker Bartheld

2021-04-22 07:31:38 UTC

Post by The Real Bev
What are they thinking of doing to the Poison Spider thing near Moab?

We have poison ivy, giant hogweed and asian hornets in Munich now. Makes
the occasional enduro ride much more interesting because
(military/railway) police, neighbourhood groups, environmentalists, dog
owners and shepherds have gotten a bit lame recently.

Get a life, snowflake! ;-)

Volker

The Real Bev

2021-04-22 14:51:55 UTC

Post by The Real Bev
What are they thinking of doing to the Poison Spider thing near Moab?

Long ago my daughter got a miserable case of poison oak. A steroid shot
followed by tablets to taper off fixed it really fast. Do you have such
things in your country?

We have giant hogweed in some parts of the US. It looks like giant
Queen Anne's Lace, which is very pretty.

Murder hornets? Damn!

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Cheers, Bev
"I don't care who your father is! Drop that cross
one more time and you're out of the parade!"

Volker Bartheld

2021-04-22 15:40:00 UTC

Post by The Real Bev
What are they thinking of doing to the Poison Spider thing near Moab?

Long ago my daughter got a miserable case of poison oak. A steroid shot
followed by tablets to taper off fixed it really fast. Do you have such
things in your country?

Actually, I had to look that critter up in Google. Turns out that it's
called "Toxicodendron diversilobum" or "Eichenblättriger Giftsumach" (how
cool a name is that???) and that it is not very common in Germany outside
of botanic gardens and some hobby gardeners' herbariums. Perhaps (and
luckily) the climate does not fit. Yet. It has been reported that some
acclimatization process is going on. *)

Post by The Real Bev
We have giant hogweed in some parts of the US. It looks like giant
Queen Anne's Lace, which is very pretty.

Pretty it is indeed. Just wait till it has touched your skin (forearms,
neck, face - enduro riding, you know?) and you get exposed to sunlight -
even days later.

Post by The Real Bev
Murder hornets? Damn!

We also have an invasion of chinese^Wasian ladybirds:
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asiatischer_Marienk%C3%A4fer
who has more or less terminated our domestic ones.

There's also the "Eichen-Prozessionsspinner" (processionary moth) that some
people call the "Angela-Merkel-Caterpillar" *LOL* because of it's colour,
behaviour, toxicity and the damage it does to the German oak:
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eichen-Prozessionsspinner
That guy is cool as well as it has stinging hair which can break off and
then irritate skin and respiratory system. You are not supposed to burn
them (for obvious reasons) but rather cover the webs with sticky sugar
glue.

And another - ahem - "guest" from Asia: The "Asiatischer Laubholzbockkäfer"
(Anoplophora glabripennis):
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asiatischer_Laubholzbockk%C3%A4fer
Damages our trees more than the domestic bark beetle.

Do you also have mistletoes over ther in the US?
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misteln
VERY hard to get rid of.

Volker

*) I vaguely remember a rmd rider's report where he fell off the bike,
dropped into some kind of gully, right into a poisonous plant and had one
hell of a time getting himself and the bike out. Was quite fun to read, but
probably not so much fun to be in that situation. Anyone knows that story?

The Real Bev

2021-04-23 15:07:08 UTC

Post by Volker Bartheld
Actually, I had to look that critter up in Google. Turns out that it's
called "Toxicodendron diversilobum" or "Eichenblättriger Giftsumach" (how
cool a name is that???) and that it is not very common in Germany outside
of botanic gardens and some hobby gardeners' herbariums. Perhaps (and
luckily) the climate does not fit. Yet. It has been reported that some
acclimatization process is going on. *)

I really have to wonder why somebody would import the stuff. Maybe some
poverty-stricken would-be terrorist who couldn't afford to do anything
more destructive...

Post by The Real Bev
Murder hornets? Damn!

There's a nice documentary on the hunt for nests in the PNW. Spoiler:
they find one. It's really creepy.

Post by Volker Bartheld
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asiatischer_Marienk%C3%A4fer
who has more or less terminated our domestic ones.

We always called those ladybugs, not ladybirds. How can people have
made such an egregious mistake? Not even HUMMINGBIRDS are that small...

Post by Volker Bartheld
There's also the "Eichen-Prozessionsspinner" (processionary moth) that some
people call the "Angela-Merkel-Caterpillar" *LOL* because of it's colour,
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eichen-Prozessionsspinner
That guy is cool as well as it has stinging hair which can break off and
then irritate skin and respiratory system. You are not supposed to burn
them (for obvious reasons) but rather cover the webs with sticky sugar
glue.

We have tent caterpillars in the south which are really destructive,
creepy and just nasty. I once saw something wherein a small number of
them were forced to walk in a circle until they died. Good riddance. I
don't care if they allow birds to survive, I want them eliminated!

Post by Volker Bartheld
And another - ahem - "guest" from Asia: The "Asiatischer Laubholzbockkäfer"
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asiatischer_Laubholzbockk%C3%A4fer
Damages our trees more than the domestic bark beetle.

We've got a lot of bark beetles in the California forests. The drought
(perpetual) makes the trees even more susceptible to fire.

Post by Volker Bartheld
Do you also have mistletoes over ther in the US?
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misteln
VERY hard to get rid of.

Yes. They sell bunches of it at Christmas. Supposedly it's legal to
kiss total strangers if they happen to be standing under a sprig of
mistletoe. Something from Norse mythology. I wonder if wokeness and
new definitions of sexual harassment have changed that custom. Just
imagine, a whole industry dedicated to implementing unwanted sexual
advances!

Post by Volker Bartheld
Volker
*) I vaguely remember a rmd rider's report where he fell off the bike,
dropped into some kind of gully, right into a poisonous plant and had one
hell of a time getting himself and the bike out. Was quite fun to read, but
probably not so much fun to be in that situation. Anyone knows that story?

No, but I'm glad it happened to someone else.

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Cheers, Bev
If voting could really change things, it would be illegal.
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Volker Bartheld

2021-04-23 15:18:35 UTC

Post by Volker Bartheld
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asiatischer_Marienk%C3%A4fer
who has more or less terminated our domestic ones.

We always called those ladybugs, not ladybirds. How can people have
made such an egregious mistake?

Not my fault:
https://www.linguee.com/english-german/search?source=auto&query=marienk%C3%A4fer
Seems that both terms are OK. *shrug*

Post by The Real Bev
I once saw something wherein a small number of them were forced to walk
in a circle until they died. Good riddance.

Could also work for AI-cars:
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Post by The Real Bev
I don't care if they allow birds to survive, I want them eliminated!

I want my neighbours eliminated. Turns out, asian killer hornets don't prey
on neighbours.

Post by Volker Bartheld
Do you also have mistletoes over ther in the US?
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misteln

Yes. They sell bunches of it at Christmas. Supposedly it's legal to
kiss total strangers if they happen to be standing under a sprig of
mistletoe.

Seems like a cool tradition in times of COVID-19.

Post by Volker Bartheld
*) I vaguely remember a rmd rider's report where he fell off the bike,
dropped into some kind of gully, right into a poisonous plant and had one
hell of a time getting himself and the bike out. Was quite fun to read, but
probably not so much fun to be in that situation. Anyone knows that story?

No, but I'm glad it happened to someone else.

I broke into a frozen lake with my Honda XR600R once. And a friend got
trapped in barbed wire with his KTM. The good NATO stuff:
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Almost ruined my leatherman to break him free. But that's another story.

Volker

The Real Bev

2021-04-23 15:28:40 UTC