Discussion:
How do I check KTM fork oil level?
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Ron Alexander
2004-01-23 19:15:32 UTC
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I have a 2002 ktm 300 exc. I would like to know how to measure the oil
levle. I know that the spring has to be out and the fork has to be
comletely compressed. I also know that you have to measure from the
top of the fork tube to the top of the oil level. I need to know what
instrument do I use to measure it with.

THANKS: DJ Mueller
Pekka Hänninen
2004-01-23 19:28:24 UTC
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Post by Ron Alexander
I have a 2002 ktm 300 exc. I would like to know how to measure the oil
levle. I know that the spring has to be out and the fork has to be
comletely compressed. I also know that you have to measure from the
top of the fork tube to the top of the oil level. I need to know what
instrument do I use to measure it with.
Ruler.

Pekka Hänninen,oh7xc
ktm400sx/ktm125exc
Mike Baxter
2004-01-23 19:33:21 UTC
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Post by Ron Alexander
I have a 2002 ktm 300 exc. I would like to know how to measure the oil
levle. I know that the spring has to be out and the fork has to be
comletely compressed. I also know that you have to measure from the
top of the fork tube to the top of the oil level. I need to know what
instrument do I use to measure it with.
THANKS: DJ Mueller
Use any means that you have handy. I've done it using everything from
a screwdriver to a straw. Measure the air gap that you want on any
clean item that you can stick down in the fork and fill to that level.
If your looking to buy a tool, then go to
http://www.motionpro.com/Docs/suspensiontools.html
and scroll down to the Fork Oil Level Gage.

Mike Baxter
-jc
2004-01-23 19:35:47 UTC
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Post by Mike Baxter
Post by Ron Alexander
I have a 2002 ktm 300 exc. I would like to know how to measure the oil
levle. I know that the spring has to be out and the fork has to be
comletely compressed. I also know that you have to measure from the
top of the fork tube to the top of the oil level. I need to know what
instrument do I use to measure it with.
Use any means that you have handy. I've done it using everything from
a screwdriver to a straw. Measure the air gap that you want on any
clean item that you can stick down in the fork and fill to that level.
If your looking to buy a tool, then go to
http://www.motionpro.com/Docs/suspensiontools.html
and scroll down to the Fork Oil Level Gage.
I have one of those and it works great ... it lets you be inaccurate when
you're adding oil and easily extract your mistake.
--
- Jeff
- 02 KTM200exc
- 99 WKX250
- ........................ then again, what do I know.
WoodsChick
2004-01-23 22:56:21 UTC
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Post by -jc
Post by Mike Baxter
Post by Ron Alexander
I have a 2002 ktm 300 exc. I would like to know how to measure the oil
levle. I know that the spring has to be out and the fork has to be
comletely compressed. I also know that you have to measure from the
top of the fork tube to the top of the oil level. I need to know what
instrument do I use to measure it with.
Use any means that you have handy. I've done it using everything from
a screwdriver to a straw. Measure the air gap that you want on any
clean item that you can stick down in the fork and fill to that level.
If your looking to buy a tool, then go to
http://www.motionpro.com/Docs/suspensiontools.html
and scroll down to the Fork Oil Level Gage.
I have one of those and it works great ... it lets you be inaccurate when
you're adding oil and easily extract your mistake.
Ditto. Makes life easy, and it looks kinda cool, too.

Tami-
Simmonsmc
2004-01-24 15:51:23 UTC
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for the poor mans version i use any spray bottle, just remove the spray head
put a mark on the tube and pump out the excess, works great cheap and easy.


Mike Simmons
04' KTM 300 EXC
AMA/ Dist.36
http://www.ktm-parts.com
D-H Cycles KTM/Suzuki/ Modesto
Motowerx, livermore Ca
Ralph Furley
2004-02-05 14:27:03 UTC
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this was taken from JEB's link on KTM talk

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How to change seals in the 48's. (KTM)



-Front wheel, brake caliper and fork guards off



-Loosen top triple clamp bolts and break the caps loose



-Remove forks and unscrew the caps the rest of the way



-Pull down the fork spring and insert a skinny 22mm open end wrench on the
cartridge to hold it while you break the caps loose from the cartridge.



-Pull the cap off and the long hollow alum rod that runs down the middle of
the cartridge



-Remove the spring



-Dump oil out, pump the cartridge, dump some more, repeat until empty



-Pull the dust wiper down



-Use a small bladed screwdriver to get the clip out from under the dust
wiper. There's a pointed end and closed end on the clip. Work the pointed
end with the screwdriver.



-Hold the fork horizontally with the lower tube in one hand, upper in the
other. Push them together a few inches and draw them sharply apart. Do this
until the fork halves seperate.



-Remove bushings and spacers and keep them in the correct order. The lower 2
bushing look a lot alike but they're not the same. Also note the way the
seal faces (open side up) so you don't get the new seals on upside down.



Reverse to reassemble. Make sure you wrap the top of the fork with a piece
of plastic, etc to protect the new seal from getting cut up when you install
it on the fork. Also, use some kind of seal grease on the new seal and dust
wiper. Having a seal driver is very handy for driving the bushings and seals
in correctly.



When you fill the forks with oil (5wt is stock), make sure you don't put any
down the middle of the cartridge, where that hollow rod goes. And that
hollow rod needs to be seated correctly. Wiggle it around until it drops to
almost flush with the top of the cavity.



The way I fill them is I fill the compressed fork with oil up to the top of
the inner tube. I pump the rod right away a couple of strokes and then top
off the oil. Then I continue to pump it until it's smooth all the way
through it's stroke. Then I raise the outer fork tube to dump any oil that
may be between the fork tubes back into the lower tube and then set the oil
height at 120-130mm for the 48's. Repeat raising the tube and checking
height until the level stabilizes.



Make sure you work in as clean an environment as possible. Clean the
springs, etc before reinstalling them. Also, use brake cleaner, etc to clean
the fork clamping surfaces and inside of the triple clamps before mounting
the forks. That will keep them from twisting too easily on your next getoff.



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Post by Mike Baxter
Post by Ron Alexander
I have a 2002 ktm 300 exc. I would like to know how to measure the oil
levle. I know that the spring has to be out and the fork has to be
comletely compressed. I also know that you have to measure from the
top of the fork tube to the top of the oil level. I need to know what
instrument do I use to measure it with.
THANKS: DJ Mueller
Use any means that you have handy. I've done it using everything from
a screwdriver to a straw. Measure the air gap that you want on any
clean item that you can stick down in the fork and fill to that level.
If your looking to buy a tool, then go to
http://www.motionpro.com/Docs/suspensiontools.html
and scroll down to the Fork Oil Level Gage.
Mike Baxter
IdaSpode
2004-02-05 16:14:15 UTC
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Post by Ralph Furley
this was taken from JEB's link on KTM talk
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How to change seals in the 48's. (KTM)
-Front wheel, brake caliper and fork guards off
-Loosen top triple clamp bolts and break the caps loose
Leave lower clamp bolts tight, to hold fork tube, while you loosen the
cap; then loosen lower clamp to remove the forks. If need be, use a
screwdriver (carefully) to slightly spread the clamps. Don't let the
fork tube fall out of the clamp.
Post by Ralph Furley
-Remove forks and unscrew the caps the rest of the way
-Pull down the fork spring and insert a skinny 22mm open end wrench on the
cartridge to hold it while you break the caps loose from the cartridge.
It will require a wrench that is thinner than your average Craftsman
open end. I took a SAE wrench and ground it down (on the sides) to
fit, forgot what size is close to 22mm, but I had to open up the
"throat" of the wrench slightly also.

David '03 KTM 200EXC
djones<at>LSidaho.com
http://www.motosports-boise.com/rmd

IdaSpode
2004-01-23 19:39:44 UTC
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Post by Ron Alexander
I have a 2002 ktm 300 exc. I would like to know how to measure the oil
levle. I know that the spring has to be out and the fork has to be
comletely compressed. I also know that you have to measure from the
top of the fork tube to the top of the oil level. I need to know what
instrument do I use to measure it with.
Stick something (a piece of wood?) down there until it's in the oil,
mark the level of the top of the fork, remove and measure between top
mark and where the dipstick gets oily...

I saw a neat trick on KTM Talk for setting oil level on the cheap.
Take the sprayer and tube from a spray bottle, measure your target
dimension from the underside of the "lid" to a point on the pickup
tube. Cut tube at this mark, set cap of sprayer on top of fork tube,
pump out oil until it no longer picks it up. Done...
Post by Ron Alexander
THANKS: DJ Mueller
David - '03 KTM200 EXC
djones <at> LSidaho.com
http://www.motosports-boise.com/rmd


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MXOldtimer
2004-01-24 02:47:11 UTC
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Post by IdaSpode
I saw a neat trick on KTM Talk for setting oil level on the cheap.
Take the sprayer and tube from a spray bottle, measure your target
dimension from the underside of the "lid" to a point on the pickup
tube. Cut tube at this mark, set cap of sprayer on top of fork tube,
pump out oil until it no longer picks it up. Done...
I've always set my oil height this way.
Doug
Pacific NorthWET/Oregon
http://hometown.aol.com/mxoldtimer/myhomepage/index.html
SNOman
2004-01-24 06:23:55 UTC
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Post by Ron Alexander
I have a 2002 ktm 300 exc. I would like to know how to measure the oil
levle. I know that the spring has to be out and the fork has to be
comletely compressed. I also know that you have to measure from the
top of the fork tube to the top of the oil level. I need to know what
instrument do I use to measure it with.
THANKS: DJ Mueller
I did the fork oil level on my XR350 today after having installed
racetech cartridge emulators.

I raided the kitchen and grabbed my wifes turkey basitor and cut a
circle out of a plastic ice cream container lid to stick the baistor
through. I set the distance from the bottom of th baistor to the ice
cream lid to 130mm, stuck it down the fork and sucked the excess oil
out. Worked a treat.
SNOman
2004-01-24 08:31:53 UTC
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Post by SNOman
Post by Ron Alexander
I have a 2002 ktm 300 exc. I would like to know how to measure the oil
levle. I know that the spring has to be out and the fork has to be
comletely compressed. I also know that you have to measure from the
top of the fork tube to the top of the oil level. I need to know what
instrument do I use to measure it with.
THANKS: DJ Mueller
I did the fork oil level on my XR350 today after having installed
racetech cartridge emulators.
I raided the kitchen and grabbed my wifes turkey basitor and cut a
circle out of a plastic ice cream container lid to stick the baistor
through. I set the distance from the bottom of th baistor to the ice
cream lid to 130mm, stuck it down the fork and sucked the excess oil
out. Worked a treat.
Jez my spelling is bad :-)
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